Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:10 AM
To: J-
Here is what I propose, 20% of online order profits to build/host/manage OfficeSupplyStore.com with a min guarantee of $7500/year (paid quarterly).

I have real cost that I can't risk and need a minimum.

You have told me the average order you get is $500 and that your markup is 25%. at these numbers it only takes less then 20 orders to cover the $1875 quarterly minimum.

this is a sweetheart deal, most places would charge $4-5 grand just to build the store, not including all the special stuff you want to do.







J- Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM

I don't have 20% to play with... there's a lot of other costs/doing business fees that go in to maintaining a business. Down the road when I sell or partner up 20% will kill my leverage. You've got to maintain 51% of your company or you lose control. Once we get this thing going, 1% will put a couple commas in your pay check.
My average order isn't $500 online. My average order online is around $50. For now, I'd like to get my emails cleaned up.
Still pondering the upgrade to the new shop script or the cart you suggested. Having several difficulties right now businesswise.
If we can get this thing shaped up a little better. And we've already taken a big step towards that, we can start shopping this thing around to the Venture Capitalists. The auto import is also a critical implimentation.

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002

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Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:04 PM
To: J-
So I guess we are going hourly then?  I have sent you an Invoice for the last two weeks (I was very kind) and you have made no mention of paying that. When we first talked on the phone you said you would pay by credit card.

The only agreement we have signed, is that I'm and Independent contractor.  Tell me how I'm going to make money.  I currently feel like I have to build a store and then you will tell me how I'm getting paid. Don't sell me on the business, I'm not an investor.  I'm the guy you need to pay/insensitive to build your dream.

FYI

I looked at shipping policies today.
http://www.staples.com/sbd/content/help/using/delivery_policy.html
http://www.officedepot.com/specialLinks.do?file=/misc/deliveryOptions.jsp
http://www.quill.com/content/iw/site/Help/SiteHelp/freefreight.htm
http://www.officemax.com/customerservice/customerService.jsp?subCategoryId=Delivery_Information&categorySelect=Delivery_and_Returns

$50 or more free shipping is pretty standard.


Jonathan, Lets make some money but when your not straight with me it makes it difficult.
Later,

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J- Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I have removed this really long message you will see it in my reply below


Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM
To: J-
SEE BELLOW

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:50 AM, J- <j@officesupplystore.com> wrote:
I explained to you in one of my emails that my book keeing department has to admit you as an approved vendor. Which usually takes 90 days. I've put a rush on it so by this week or next week's end you'll be paid. In any event, all of my vendors are on net 30 day terms. For $30 an hour, I didn't expect you to be learning on the job.

After I fixed the bugs on your website you said on the phone you would pay me by credit card.
The manner in which you get paid is set up by you and only you. You have to make your deal going in and be clear on how you expect to be paid for your services. In this economy, or in any economy it's better to go net 30. You'll get a lot of business that will owe you a lot of money and if they don't pay their bill you can sell off your debt to a collection agency and still get paid. The bottom line is, you'll have a lot of money coming in every week and that's still owed to you creating wealth. And that's how you get a business going. Not scraping and clawing to be paid every little nickel you're owed before you move on to the next job. Make it effortless to do business with you not a pride swallowing mission.

On the Phone you told me we could work something out and made an offer of 1-5%, I then sent you an email with my proposal.
We're still defining the relationship and you never said anything about up front payment or how you bill out. As I explained to you before about how our approved vendor process worked there wasn't a problem. I have over 1000 manufacturers and 100,000 items that I sell. You are one of 3 programmers I have actaully taken the time to meet personally out of at least 300. And as I've told you, the web isn't where I do 99.9% of my business yet.
Whoever is giving you the advice on how to push me so you can get yours needs to leave you alone before you turn 50 and wish you would have just taken a chance on a lot of things in your life that will simply pass you by. And YES, a lot of those chances you take will not work out. And that's ok. But a lot of the chances you take will work out. If you deny one opportunity, the oppportunity Gods will deny you 3.
No one is pulling my strings.
This advice or tactic you are using is teaching you how to run off a great opportunity for you to make yourself potentionally millions. NO... it's not a guarantee. YES... it's a gamble with a proven 10 year track record. AND YOU NEVER said you'd do anything for a percentage of the web site so YES, it's still hourly until we enter in to a more formal agreement.

I did not it was based on what you said on the phone, my proposal was strictly cash zero equity.
The guys that make their deals payoff are the guys who worked through all of the bull shit and problems and didn't complain while putting together a nest egg for the rest of their life. Stop getting frustrated by your learning curve. It will all come together. There's no set method for success. You simply have to go for it and never hold anything back. This is one of those opportunities that you got lucky to stumble in to by chance. Make no mistake about it, I've run millions through my company. And I'm not interested in anyone else but you. Mark my words, anyone you tell about working with www.officesupplystore.com is thinking how can they get a piece of your action. ADVICE: don't let anyone muddy the water for you.

I'm not an emotional person, i'm driven by logic I see the what the future could be.
For someone who knows the web so well, I'm surprised you haven't been able to pull up all of the different versions of my site. When you tell somebody that you want to build their dream, and I've built many, you better have a magic wand and it better work. To be quite frank, I'm going to be paying you to learn on the job. At $30 an hour, I'm being kind.

What other "Versions"
If you get to put me on your resume, that takes you from a whoever you are to a who the fuck is this guy. I've got homeless guys that have come through my company who are now millionairs. That's what I do: make people so forgive me for believing in you more than you believe in yourself. I know what you're capable of and I promise you, you're not even close to hitting your stride unless you want to just get by for the rest of your life.

Really, the address registered to officesupplystore.com is

2803 126th Ave SE

Bellevue, WA 98005-4321

Which is a Rental Property owned by Michael Menin

If you have turned homeless guys into millionaires why do you live in a rental and not own your home?


Do your research on me. Your own personal web site doesn't show me that you can generate revenues on the web or build sites that I'd want to look at for more than a click. This is a cinematically dynamic art form and your work is in a visual medium. You have to grab your audience in 3 seconds and keep them for 30 seconds. Your site has to close the deal, and based on your last email, closing is something you think only doors can do. The user is the Conductor and all of the products on your web site are the musicians. Together, they have to make music.
When I ask you if you can generate hits and business for a web site, you say, that's not my area of expertise. WTF? I don't need Staples shipping policies. They suck. I've been doing this business for 10 years with my own warehouses. We kick their ass head to head. Our customers love what we do and how we do it... our methoid of doing business is magic and nobody can compete with us one on one. I don't want to do anything like Staples or Office Depot who are closing down stores in record numbers. It's not because of the lack of sales.

I build SEO Compatible Websites, as for build online marketing campaigns to drive traffic to the site, that is not what I do well.
Programmers out there that is making the big bucks understands the web from creation to how to make a site make money. If I can't sell you on the office supply business, I don't want you working on my site. If you are going to close yourself off now, it's not going to get any better. Being able to realize anyone's dream means you can't be a one trick pony and be closed minded like you are beginning to portray yourself to be. You have a long way to go in the world of WOW. Working with a guy like me is definitely a step up for you. What you are able to deliver right now is very elementary from a dynamic standpoint. For you to say it's all just time and money says a lot. You and your client's only limitation should be their imagination. I don't need to have a web site to make my money. I'm tired of the programmers who come in and jam up the site hitting me for more money to do simple code. I took you for someone who was straight up and did an honest days work.

I'm not closed minded, I'm just waiting on you to decide what you want to do.
I'm not trying to run you off, but if you're going to work with me, you've got to be realistic. For the most part I like you. All of my professional career I have had to take talent from it's infancy and develop it in to a product that could be bought and sold for the highest price. You can make a lot of money in this industry but not the way you're coming at me.

Again, you made the offer of 1-5% and I replied with my offer.
Never sacrifice long term image for short term profits. I realize you may tell me to go phuck myself after this email but I'm not interested in moving forward unless we can tell each other to go phuck ourselves and still come up with a money making product 2nd to none. I do beleive you can deliver, but it's going to take my input and your sophistication. Both of which are valuable elements.

Hope we can still work together.

Again my offer was pretty straight forward  I thought, Zero equity strictly based on online store preformace.  That would incentivize me to help make online store sales.

I have sent you the Phases Document, Finish defining what you want. I will bid out each phase.
And here is how the process I work for large web development projects.  On larger projects I take a deposit to start, possible milestone payments(depending on time frame and project size) and then a final payment upon launch.
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J- Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM

When I moved up here 2 years ago all of the properties were way over priced. In fact, I projected this crash to the month in 2004 and mark my words, it's not over. The market will be down to 3500 by this time next year. 
Why? All of the companies reporting profits are profiting because they're laying off people to reduce their payroll. More jobless claims to come with more jobless benefits running out and no new jobs being created. With Healthcare about to pass and the Cap and Trade bill already passed even more companies are taking their money to Countries that will let them kep what they earn. Healthcre is 1/7th of the economy. Add that to the alreadystaggerin 52 of the employed country being employed by the Government and you can finally say good bye to capitalism. SOme of the companies showing profit that took the bailout money are showing junk/false profits by  tossing in the bail out money in to their books. There's another serious windfall crash coming and the housing market is going to crash down to 1970s prices which is when I'll buy a boat load of real estate up here.
*Bro: you're not on your game and unfortunately, your logic is coming from a place of no reference.
I've only been in Seattle for 2 years. Your research is extremely and you have no idea who I am or what my achievments are on any level. I own a few corps and several properties. I bought my family their first home at the age of 8. As far as you thinking only logically, you're a human being not a computer. Logic would tell you that my industry and url are extremely valued. Most every major breakthrough in our world has come from very unlogical circumstances in which the envelope had to be pushed.
I can' work with somebody with these kinds of beleifs and opinions about me. Unless you can take a big look at things and bring this in to perspective on a realistic and believable, positive level for both of us I need to move on and just pay you for what you've done. Your job isn't to crush people and tell them what they can not do or what they have not done it's to encourage them to beleive that there is nothing they can not do. And that you are there to help them in any way you can.
I judge people by the way they treat people that don't get treated well by others. And yes, I judge people.

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002

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Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM
To: J-
I don't have any opinion about you, I don't know you except for what's online, and all the profiles I have found pretty much say the same thing as this profile.

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=-608025


Anyway, I have no issue as long as I get paid.

I have sent you the Phases Document, Finish defining what you want. I will bid out each phase.

And here is how the process I work for large web development projects.  On larger projects I take a deposit to start, possible milestone payments(depending on time frame and project size) and then a final payment upon launch.


Later,

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J- Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

You told me before that you have never built a web site. Your first task list didn't mention milestone payments. I'm pretty sure you picked that out of the document I sent you that listed suggested tasks from another programmer. In any event, how much will you charge me to straighten out my emails?

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002

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Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:26 PM
To: J-
It should only take and hour or two to straighten out your emails.  But before I can do anymore work I need my outstanding invoice to be paid.  I can send you a paypal invoice so you can by Credit Card.

Thanks,