Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM
To: J- <j@officesupplystore.com>
So I been looking at web carts,  And have narrowed it down to two.

http://www.shop-script.com/features/

Pluses
Very feature rich.
Supports googlebase (Google Products search)

Draw Backs
$299/per store
demo store is clunky looking (http://www.shop-script.com/demo/store/index.php?lang=eng)

http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=information/features

Pluses
Free
like the look of the store (http://demo.opencart.com/)

Draw Backs
Not as feature rich
no Googlebase

Things both need
Net30
Search Improvement?
product import

So I'm thinking we should do things in phases.

Phase 1
New Store Software with SEO
Working Net30
Auto Product Import
Working Search

Phase 2
GoogleBase
Auto Credit Check
Other things

Phase 3
Not sure.

So I'm currently on the fence with the software, Shop-script has a few things that opencart does not. But if you want to sell shopping carts the profit margin goes up by using a free shopping cart.  Any code we develop for open cart we can reuse in carts you want to sell.  While the shop-script gives us a one time savings, once we have built the feature or two that are missing from shop-script. We are not paying 299 per store to resale the technology.

Thoughts,
J- <j@officesupplystore.com> Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Just got back from Vancouver. Is there any way we can import the features we've developed? I don't really want to have to pay or wait for another year and a half. I need to make money now. The import feature on Shop Script is worth it's weight in Gold. One of it's nice features is that it will add the Brand name to the description if there isn't one. I use PAYTRACE to process credit cards which was a nightmare getting integrated. The Aspell Dictionary is really working great. It adds new words to the dictonary upon import.  
I don't mind paying to upgrade. As far as selling the cart, we can just add the cost of the cart in to our sales. We're selling carts for $4,000. Doesn't Shop Script have the Google functions too? If you look through the functions on SHop Script, it has everything.
ANd I like the look of their layouts. They're very professional. I'll look at the carts you suggested thoroughly today.

Thx

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002

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J- <j@officesupplystore.com> Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:35 AM

Is open cart your own product?

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002
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Subject: Web Carts
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J- <j@officesupplystore.com> Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:39 AM

How do we post on Wiki? Open cart doesn't have enough meat. Shop Script has most of what we need to be successful on the web. Especially since we can click on SEO and have search engine optimization done quickly. It also has the MOD REWRITE built in...
The open cart looks very attractive and I like it, but it's all of the difference between the NY Yankees and the San Diego Padres. There's a big difference between just getting by and leading the way. Businesses can get crippled because they spend too much time trying to reinvent the wheel and play with their shopping cart features.
With OPEN CART, we'd be here all year and our time to make money is between now and XMAS DAY.

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002
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Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:45 AM
To: J- <j@officesupplystore.com>
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J- <j@officesupplystore.com> Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:48 AM

Another thing to consider is when you sell a cart or a web site development package which can exceed $90,000, you don't want your customers being able to plug in to the backend and figure out the secrets from behind the magician. With Shop Script, I can do everything with the click of a button that we can add in to a Web Development package.
WIth Open Cart it looks like we're going to have to code out everything seperately. Attorneys have boiler plate contracts, we need to have boiler plate features that can be enabled effortlessly. Time is money and we need to be able to cruise through the hurdles with out customers. If we can make doing business on the web convenient and fast for the customers on both sides we'll win and win big. 
There are companies making 100 Million a year selling web sites and web packages to people that aren't even existing.  In other words, they sell them a web site and they haven't even reserved the URL. Then they hit them up for SEO and other packages and the Customer doesn't even have a web site yet.
We need to deliver immediately upon payment. This is more like bread and butter money. If you Sell to the Masses, you eat with the classes. If you Sell to the Classes, eat with the Masses.
I need to get my cart in shape. I think your idea of buying the upgraded cart is where I might go... I'm not certain though.. Hey, I'd like to find something better. And I just don't know if OPEN CART is better... It looks and feels bery pro but it's missing a lot of features...
I've got a lot of products I imported that came up with the wrong prices... $2 for $2,000 products... Can we fix that glitch on the import?

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 08:42
To: J-
Subject: Web Carts
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Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:05 AM
To: J- <j@officesupplystore.com>
See below

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:48 AM, J- <j@officesupplystore.com> wrote:
Another thing to consider is when you sell a cart or a web site development package which can exceed $90,000, you don't want your customers being able to plug in to the backend and figure out the secrets from behind the magician. With Shop Script, I can do everything with the click of a button that we can add in to a Web Development package.
not sure what you mean?
WIth Open Cart it looks like we're going to have to code out everything seperately. Attorneys have boiler plate contracts, we need to have boiler plate features that can be enabled effortlessly. Time is money and we need to be able to cruise through the hurdles with out customers. If we can make doing business on the web convenient and fast for the customers on both sides we'll win and win big. 
 Add the feature once and reuse it, the first store is the hardest then its easy after that.
There are companies making 100 Million a year selling web sites and web packages to people that aren't even existing.  In other words, they sell them a web site and they haven't even reserved the URL. Then they hit them up for SEO and other packages and the Customer doesn't even have a web site yet.
We need to deliver immediately upon payment. This is more like bread and butter money. If you Sell to the Masses, you eat with the classes. If you Sell to the Classes, eat with the Masses.

If use shop-script for every store the starting price is $299(Classes) if we use an Open Source the starting price is ZERO(Masses).  Sure I have to spend time/money to get OpenCart (or other free cart) to do what we want, but that's a one time fix.
I need to get my cart in shape. I think your idea of buying the upgraded cart is where I might go... I'm not certain though.. Hey, I'd like to find something better. And I just don't know if OPEN CART is better... It looks and feels bery pro but it's missing a lot of features...
trying to make your existing cart work like a new version of something else is a waste of my time and your money.  I looked at your web logs and you have a decent amount of traffic for clients using Internet Explorer 6.  My testing of IE 6 of your current website did not go well,  you current site needs to go.
I've got a lot of products I imported that came up with the wrong prices... $2 for $2,000 products... Can we fix that glitch on the import?

send me the search url, I will take a look.

If you want to sell to the masses, a basic website starts at $500 bucks with basic web design, and a store maybe $1000+.
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J- <j@officesupplystore.com> Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM

My responses are in bold below

     Johnathan Dodds, CEO

www.officesupplystore.com

Bellevue, Washington

                  425-644-5002
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 09:06
To: J-
Subject: Re: Web Carts

See below
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:48 AM, J- <j@officesupplystore.com> wrote:
Another thing to consider is when you sell a cart or a web site development package which can exceed $90,000, you don't want your customers being able to plug in to the backend and figure out the secrets from behind the magician. With Shop Script, I can do everything with the click of a button that we can add in to a Web Development package.
not sure what you mean?
you don't want them to be able to buy the cart without you
WIth Open Cart it looks like we're going to have to code out everything seperately. Attorneys have boiler plate contracts, we need to have boiler plate features that can be enabled effortlessly. Time is money and we need to be able to cruise through the hurdles with out customers. If we can make doing business on the web convenient and fast for the customers on both sides we'll win and win big. 
 Add the feature once and reuse it, the first store is the hardest then its easy after that.
IGETIT 
There are companies making 100 Million a year selling web sites and web packages to people that aren't even existing.  In other words, they sell them a web site and they haven't even reserved the URL. Then they hit them up for SEO and other packages and the Customer doesn't even have a web site yet.
We need to deliver immediately upon payment. This is more like bread and butter money. If you Sell to the Masses, you eat with the classes. If you Sell to the Classes, eat with the Masses.

If use shop-script for every store the starting price is $299(Classes) if we use an Open Source the starting price is ZERO(Masses).  Sure I have to spend time/money to get OpenCart (or other free cart) to do what we want, but that's a one time fix.
but can we do everyting with open cart that we can and have with shop script? Open cart doesn't have anything. No XML features, web optimization, I didn't see anything really... It only has basic features but nothing that will make a site make money like Amazon Marketplace integration or Google Checkout
I need to get my cart in shape. I think your idea of buying the upgraded cart is where I might go... I'm not certain though.. Hey, I'd like to find something better. And I just don't know if OPEN CART is better... It looks and feels bery pro but it's missing a lot of features...
trying to make your existing cart work like a new version of something else is a waste of my time and your money.  I looked at your web logs and you have a decent amount of traffic for clients using Internet Explorer 6.  My testing of IE 6 of your current website did not go well,  you current site needs to go.
How much will it cost to move it over to OPEN CART? And how many layouts do I have to choice of using? With Shop Script I've got 17... I can switch them up with the click of a button. Is OPEN CART a PHP SITE too?
I've got a lot of products I imported that came up with the wrong prices... $2 for $2,000 products... Can we fix that glitch on the import?

send me the search url, I will take a look.

If you want to sell to the masses, a basic website starts at $500 bucks with basic web design, and a store maybe $1000+.
The price is never the issue that keeps sales people from making sales. Selling to the masses requires a race horse that can get you to them. If price had anything to do with selling, we wouldn't need salesmen. People wanting to get in on the web want to see the big picture painted as to how they can make money. It's a matter of making it convenient to get to the person that can say, "Yes." Your leads are what make you money. And you've got to sell to the right people.  
I like what you're saying, I'm just scared. I've put so much work in to this site. My checkout process for example where the customer is askd if they use a PURCHASE ORDER, and the way we go in to CHECKOUT. Will the new cart do a MOD REWRITE? Will we be more easily picked up by Google?
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